Ep. 61: Undereating, Fad Diets, and Discovering the Bioenergetic View (Our Health Journeys Part 1)

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In this episode we discuss:

  • Mike’s severe gut issues that led to dangerous weight loss and eventually surgery 
  • Jay’s experience with undereating/anorexia and how this shaped his health journey 
  • How doing everything we were “supposed to do” led to us feeling our worst 
  • Our experiences following various diets (vegetarian, paleo, keto, intermittent fasting, low-fat, bodybuilding) and how we navigated through them 
  • Our experiences with symptoms like cold hands and feet, insomnia, low energy, low libido, anxiety, depression, hair loss, joint pain, bloating, weight gain, allergies, histamine intolerance, psoriasis, and viral and fungal issues 
  • What led us to Ray Peat and the bioenergetic view 

3:40 – why we decided to share our stories 

6:54 – the beginning of Mike’s health journey and his experience with severe gut issues, the conventional medical system, and surgery 

41:24 – the earlier parts of Jay’s health journey and his experience with severe undereating, binging, and conventional nutrition information 

1:06:23 – when we began to question mainstream ideas and low-carb 

1:22:05 – our introduction to Ray Peat and the bioenergetic view through Danny Roddy 

1:25:26 – our initial pro-metabolic/paleo combo diet 

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  • Michael W. Thayer
    Posted at 12:49h, 17 June Reply

    Liked this a lot…I am currently on the Asprey bandwagon mostly. One thing though..I got great results limiting carbs. For 7 years my diet was roughly 60%/22%/14% FAT/PROT/CARB and I held average 185 lbs on 6.2inch frame. I started at 245 lb and lost 50 lbs in 6 months doing 2X week IF. I had cod liver oil, coconut oil, MCT almost daily. Lots of butter, salt…moderate drinking…and my visceral fat was 6 (hit 5 a couple of times) and body fat was 13% (scale impedance). I also note golfer Phil Mickelson just won the PGA at 56 years ole and he is on the Dave Asprey model where he has the bullet proof coffee (MCT, butter, cinnamon, inulin) with black coffee and eats 1-2 meals in a restricted window. He performed at the level of a 30 year old to win a major championship and his waistline shrank significantly…that is a BIG success story for IF and Keto-ish nutrition I would say.

    So, I have never been afraid of honey although I did give in to the “fructose is bad” crowd for about a year. I have gained 10 lb in last 6 months adding some more carbs but my BMI is still 25 even.

    The Mickelson anecdote is powerful though for the fat/fast stuff…any observations on that? https://www.golfdigest.com/story/phil-mickelson-coffee-fasting

  • Michael W. Thayer
    Posted at 10:33h, 18 June Reply

    Also, on my own results, removing 55 lbs, shrinking my waist 8 inches going more restricted carb (80 grams or so) and higher fat…gave me a great result. I have avoided fruits, honey mostly…it seems I could be doing better?

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